From Spectator to Racer: How Tiffany Towns Built Confidence One Lap at a Time

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Tiffany, I wanna welcome you to the show. And would you share, first of all, a little bit about yourself?

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I am married, getting ready to celebrate nineteen years with my husband. We have three little miniature dachshunds, some goats, couple cats. We like to go on Harley rides. We go to coast and ride four wheelers, like to go camping. I like hiking.

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I have two nieces and a nephew that we spend a lot of time with. I work in orthopedics, so I work with the total joints. That's kind of a little bit about me.

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That's your life in a nutshell. And Tiffany, you don't look you don't look old enough to have been married for nineteen years.

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I just. I will be 41 in November.

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You don't look, you don't look at it all. So, you must be doing something right to to keep your youthful look for sure. Awesome. And yeah. That's cool.

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So you're involved in motorsports. Your husband has a race car. Yeah. But how did you get interested in it? Did he get you interested?

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Did somebody in your family race? How did that all get started?

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So, I mean, I grew up in a small town. So I grew up in Cottage Grove, they have a speedway. And I actually had never gone to it but maybe, like, one time after the races to meet up with a friend. And so I had never really gone. My dad raced motocross and so did my uncle.

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And so I just never was around this. And my husband grew up at the racetrack and we were together when he got his first modified, which is his first race car back in, I believe, 2006. And so that's kind of how my whole racing started is I and it was a lot different for me just the whole atmosphere. It was, you know, I cause I didn't grow up around it. So we sat up in a skybox while he was out in the pits racing and just the time, I didn't realize how much time it took to race in all the weekends that you're at the racetrack.

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And I'll be honest, at first I was like, wow, this is a lot. This is like, we've gotten time to do nothing else but, but race. And so I think my husband kind of figured that out. He started, I mean, he kinda he dabbled a little bit. I mean, he had a lot of different people ask him for to do rides, like, ride race their car.

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So he's raced in the late model class. And and I always, in the back of my mind, was like, I think I could do this too. But I you know, he he was always he picked things up fast. And so it kinda like I was just the wife that was there every Saturday. And we went to Madras, which is even smaller than Cottage Grove.

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And one of his friends asked me to drive their little mini truck, I think is what that class is called. Like, I don't know what is that class called, the mini trucks. And I drove it and I had a blast. And then the main event comes out and, of course, like, had never I I mean, I raced Curtis's car in a powder puff twice and I won. And so that kinda got me hooked too.

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And I remember in the main event, the truck felt a little weird all of a sudden and it started raining and I didn't know that, you know, I didn't get that the car or the truck would change that much and I rolled it.

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Oh my. And

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so and then from then I was like, I've got to do this. And a couple years later, a friend, Casey Scott asked Curtis initially if he wanted to race his Hornet. It was called the Hornet then. It's a sport compact now. And I was like, Curtis is like, well, my wife will do it.

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And so I went out there and I thought I was so fast and I looked like I was going to the grocery store. I was going that slow. And these two guys were up front battling and they were hitting each other and I went to go high just to get out of their way because I didn't know what they were gonna do and I got hit just perfect and I rolled again.

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Tiffany, you gotta stop that rolling business.

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Yeah. Yeah. And so, I was like, I don't know. I don't wanna do this anymore and my husband's like, just get in it one more time and then, I raced a few more times that year and I loved it. I decide I mean, my husband was like, well, do you wanna do it?

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And he just he was, like, encouraging me to do it because he thought it would be fun to have us both out there. And he knew I was super competitive. I don't wanna lose. I wanna get better. And it's definitely harder than it looks.

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So I got my own car. And so I actually stole his number. So I'm 24 just like him. I'm just a hot pink and black car. And I've had a blast.

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I've rolled that thing probably three more times. And, you know, I used to people used to get on me because I was the only girl in that class at that time. There's, like, one or two more girls, I think, that race around here. And they the guys would just make fun of me. They would put a chair down upside down for my parking spot.

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And at first, it would bug me and my husband's like, it's because they like you. They're joking around and Right. I mean, at the end of the day, how many times can someone has anybody rolled more than I have? Probably.

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Right.

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No one. No one. But I've always gotten back in that car and I've always you know, my car caught on fire once last year. And the next weekend, I went out and I won my first race. And my husband won the same exact night.

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And then it was was either fan appreciation or driver appreciation. I think it was driver appreciation last year. And I went out and I won, and then my husband won again. And so it's just been such a fun experience going from rolling and then all of a sudden being a contender that people are like, okay, well, we gotta watch out for her because she's, you know, she's fast, she's doing better. And I try, but it is sometimes a little bit hard having being married to someone that has excelled in racing in about every single class and have won in every single class, kind of trying to build your own

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Mhmm. Identity.

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Own. Yeah. And so I mean at first it was they were disappointed that I wasn't as good as Curtis. I'm like, it's my first race, you

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know? Right.

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And then I have more fans that sometimes come up to me and will bypass him and and I know he's such a good sport about it, but all the little kids just love, like, the little girls and just all the little kids just love coming out and they just, we always have stickers or something for them out in our pit or, we were driver of the day on July 4 and they combined both him and I. And so they had a coloring contest and it's just been super fun to try and, you know, figure out what I like doing and how I mean, we have totally different driving styles. So he is someone that can go sideways and go on three tires and I want it completely flat and I don't want it loose and I want just to be able to just go around and not get sideways. And even though I feel like I am, I feel like I'm a lot faster than I actually am. But I tend to do way better with a car that's not loose and not, you know, I need a full tank of gas.

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I need everything tight.

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Yeah. Yeah. I think that's kind of the woman in us really a little bit. We want things organized and you know, kind of put together. Yeah, for sure.

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Oh, Tiffany. That's such a such a cool story and that, you know, how you won, he won, you won, he won, that's really cool And, you know, have you ever been to one of those, like, truck or whatever exhibitions where they drive up on the ramp and they try to roll over? You would be really good at that. Yeah, probably.

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Well, the funny thing is is, we went to a practice and he got into someone's one of the guys in my class is, sport compact, and we were kind of racing each other. And of course, I first thought he just was faster. And I mean, like, I've been racing this class for a couple years and he just gets in it and he's still faster than me. So I was trying to keep up with him and I went around a corner and rolled it and then here he comes, almost nails me because he's just going around sideways and I'm just like, how is he doing that?

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Yeah.

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It's, it's just, it's fun having the different driving styles. And, like, again, this year, we, he was leading the race by about half a lap and there were some lap cars and they took him out. But then I had to go out right after him, and that's what I struggle with is if something happens to him and then I have to go out after him, that's where I was like, I'm out. Well, then I win that night. So I won that night, which was about a month.

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I think it was May, last race in May. And so I was just super proud that I got into that car scene after what happened to him. Because I I mean, I put my helmet on with tears just because of what happened to him because he had that race and it was like, oh my gosh. We were gonna win on the same night again. And yeah it just wasn't in the cards.

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Knew all

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the noises we're gonna go over to staging.

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We gotta go to staging now so it might be a little bit loud. That's

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that's alright. We you know we live life while we do podcasting so this is good. Guys are they're gonna be in a parade for those of you that don't know. They're gonna be a parade and they live in Oregon and so I was hoping they were gonna be in the parade when we were recording because I wanted to be in the parade but not yet. You might.

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So, Tiffany, what's your favorite thing? I know, first of all, you love racing, you know, with your husband at the track. I get that. What else do you love about racing?

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Yep. What do I love about racing? I

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think it's you know,

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I first thought it was, you know, everyone was, like, super tight, but I think I love how it my one of my dogs are in here.

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That's okay.

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Just love the the I would first I first thought I would hate it, but I almost enjoy the the up and down of racing because I've learned how to try and go with the flow. I mean, I'm still learning. My husband's way better at it than I am. But to go out and, you know, finish, I finished second, and then my car was on fire, and then I go out and win. So he's always told me racing is about up and downs, and I'm almost thinking besides the fact that my husband and I are, you know, husband and wife team, I feel like that is probably one of my favorite things is just the unknown of it and being able to be one of the only husband and wife teams around here and being successful in it.

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Well, I think you're probably one of the few husband and wife teams period and the fact that you're successful makes you even more rare, I think, too. Yeah. So he drives a late model?

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He drives a modified right now.

[00:15:17] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, a modified. Okay. Yeah. And then what class are you in? I

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am in the sport compact class.

[00:15:23] - [Speaker 1]
Okay. And you're racing on dirt or asphalt? Dirt. Dirt. That's what I thought.

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Okay. Alright. Does he get ups like, does he he doesn't get upset when you like like, you win and he gets taken out that night. He's still very supportive.

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Yeah. I think I was more on the outside, it looked like I was way more upset than he was, but he wants me to do well, and he's my biggest fan. So he he was you wouldn't have known that he had a bad night when I was you know, when I had won. He gave me a hug. He was so excited.

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He had a big smile on his face. You would have never known that something bad happened to him. And,

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you know, sometimes, Tiffany, we're more happy for the other person than we are for ourselves. Right? He's he's happier. He's just as happy if not more when you win Mhmm. Than he is when he wins.

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That's sometimes how it works.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. For sure. So, about how long ago did you start racing?

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I was trying to figure that actually finished probably one full season, and so I think it was I think the very first time I had gotten in, which was that mini truck, I think was in 2018. I could be wrong. Okay. But then cons more consistently, I would say probably the last three or four years. Okay.

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I've been way more consistent with it, and I have my own car now. And Yeah. It's a really good car.

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It's super

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safe. I like it.

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Didn't start as a little kid.

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No. I started my thirties.

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I lost you for a second. You didn't start as a little kid, which a lot of people do, and yet look how successful you are.

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Yeah. I mean, it's definitely a lot harder starting, I think, in your thirties. I mean, my husband started in his late twenties, early twenties, probably mid twenties, I guess, I should say. And it's definitely harder, especially with me because it's like, you know that if you when you're a kid, you have no fear.

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Yeah. I

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see a lot of those little kids and, you know, they don't have to go to work the next day or Mhmm. You know? And they just it's fun watching them and but, yeah, it's a lot different starting later in life than it does when you're a little kid. I think I probably would be a lot better if I would have started as a as a little kid.

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Sounds like you're doing pretty good, though. You know? You don't have a lot to complain about really because you're doing well and you're having fun. If you're not having fun, you might as well not be doing it. Right?

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Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. So what do you think this is so racing together.

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I know you sat in the stands and watched. Now you're racing together. Has that changed anything between the relationship between you and your husband? Do you think it brings you closer or you're more competitive now? Has it changed anything?

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I think we I think we probably communicate a lot better because we have to. I have to tell him because I don't know. He does everything, honestly. I don't work on my car. I don't do anything on it.

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And so if something's wrong with it, he he's not gonna know because he's not in it. So I have to try and explain to him. And he's super patient with me. I would say I am the least patient out of both of us. And so I tend to get frustrated more, and he balances us out a lot better.

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So I I think we communicate a lot better. I think we get along at the track a lot better than Yeah. Before because I would get worked up if something happened to him, and now it's I'm having to focus on myself. And so I don't have that free time to, you know, be be upset or you know, because I have to focus on myself. And, you know, and I also have to sometimes tell him what I'm seeing if his car is doing something.

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He'll sometimes ask me, and I have to try and figure out how to explain it so he understands. But he he knows when I say, well, it kinda feels like it's looks like it's doing this, then he he knows what I'm thinking. So Yeah. I would say definitely communicate more. But I just I love being able to race with him as far as out there, but I am so glad that we don't race in the same class.

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Oh, no. I don't I I know, like, siblings that do that and different people, and and it seems to work. But I don't know if it would work if you're married.

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I I could tell you right now that he is gonna 99% of the time, unless he something happens, he's gonna beat me. And because I'm so competitive, competitive, I I would would get get so so frustrated frustrated and and so so mad that he would probably be rooting me on if I beat him, but I'd be I would be the one that was mad. So it's just it would not work for me if we if I was getting beat every single time by him. So I'm actually just yeah. I would I'm way too competitive to race

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in the

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same class with him.

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Yeah. I think it would take very special personalities for that to work for sure.

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Oh, yeah. Definitely. So

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how do you think I mean, I'm sure you have friends or coworkers that are not involved in racing. You know, I really feel like racing teaches us all a lot of things that if you weren't in it, it you know, you wouldn't know. So is there anything you can pinpoint that you could say, because he and I are involved in racing this, you know, like I have more confidence or we you said you communicate better or I've learned how to deal with adversity or I I don't know. I don't wanna put words in your mouth, but but I just hear so often that especially young younger girls say, you know, I really was shy, but now I'm not. Or you know?

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Yeah.

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I've always been pretty outgoing. I think I've probably been a little bit more humble to doing this, but it is I think I've learned I mean, I'm still you know, you're still working on things your whole entire life, but I'm trying to have a little bit thicker skin, I think, because it is pretty dominant for being a in you know, you're in a male dominant sport. Mhmm. And so sometimes when they say things or or, you know, compare or whatever, it can bother it bothers me a lot more. And so I'm just learning to try and yeah.

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You almost have to have tougher skin because your guys and men and women are so vastly different Yeah. How they communicate. And so I'm just trying to learn how to manage that and still being who I need to be as a person and not letting it eat me up the entire, you know, the rest of my week. Right. So that's probably something that I've tried to learn and trying to do better at.

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You kinda have to just let it go, don't you?

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Right. And I have a hard time. You I mean, you can ask my husband. I have a very hard time of letting things go. And in this sport, you have to.

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And sometimes I think, you know, people will joke, and to me, it's really not that funny. And it's kind of having to be like, okay. Well, you know, would they say that if it was Curtis right here? Would they be Right. And so that's where I struggle is I think people are a little bit harder on me because they

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because you're a girl. Yeah. Let's face it. I mean, I hear it. I hear it not as much as I used to, but there's I I still do.

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And and some things that guys think are funny, we don't think is funny. Let's just face it. That's life. That's life for sure.

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I and I'm like, would you guys say this to Curtis or any sort of male that you are racing against? Because I'm pretty sure no, you would not. So that's that's where I I struggle a little bit. But I also people also really respect my husband, so they've, you know

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You're a little more accepted because of that. Yeah.

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Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. Pretty much I everything in racing has come become from my husband, basically. I mean, he's

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Yeah.

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Everything. So

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Yeah. I get it. Cars outside.

[00:24:19] - [Speaker 2]
Yeah. I mean, I could give you a little tour of some race cars.

[00:24:22] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Absolutely. Let's do it. Alright. Sure.

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And then here's mine.

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Did you say? What kind of parade are you gonna be in? Aw.

[00:24:30] - [Speaker 2]
So every year at Cottage Grove, small town in Oregon, they have what's called Bohemia Mining Days and it's like the miner's day parade. And so because we there's like mines here, the Bohemia Mines. And so we they used to have like a little carnival and that's kind of gone away since COVID, but they still have something in the park. And then they always do this parade with, like, cars and, like, fire trucks and just a lot of stuff. So we I wasn't sure we were gonna be able to do it because, well, my car is super beat up.

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My husband is is not. It's easier to replace things on a modified versus a sport compact. And so it looks good from afar. And so he was able to come home. He's been working out of town a lot, and so he was able to come home.

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And so now we get to do it in his car. I was gonna bring my car, but he was kinda like, are you sure

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about that? It's kinda beat up. I was

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like, the kids love it. That's all that matters.

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Right. That's all that matters. Yeah. No. I'd love to see the I'd love to see the car.

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And what's your dog's name?

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My she's our little female, and her name's Charlie, and she's having a panic attack here because she wants out.

[00:25:44] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. I have a little dog, a Shih Tzu. He weighs eleven pounds and his his name is Crew like pit crew.

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Oh my gosh. I love that.

[00:25:53] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

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Alright. I'm gonna see if I can get some cars in here.

[00:25:56] - [Speaker 1]
Okay. So we're gonna get a tour. If you're just listening to this, you're just gonna have to put up with it. But go to YouTube and you'll be able to watch the video. So there is his modified.

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That's cool. Love

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it. His is a very nice car.

[00:26:12] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. It is.

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And then we have what's called the fan club, the little junior fan club. So we've got them in there.

[00:26:21] - [Speaker 1]
Okay.

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And they are like to they're chaplains and they do a lot of things for kids.

[00:26:27] - [Speaker 1]
Okay.

[00:26:28] - [Speaker 2]
I mean, speaking of like a male dominant everything, we've got a female track promoter.

[00:26:38] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, okay. What's her name?

[00:26:40] - [Speaker 2]
Her name is Heather.

[00:26:42] - [Speaker 1]
Think I've interviewed her.

[00:26:44] - [Speaker 2]
Heather Boyce. And then we've got this. And look at that. There's another 24.

[00:26:48] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, yeah. And that's got pink on it.

[00:26:51] - [Speaker 2]
Yeah. This is a Nathan Augustine's car, I believe. So

[00:26:55] - [Speaker 1]
There's Heather Boyce, Tiffany. You'll have to tell her that you were on the show because I'm pretty sure I interviewed her a long time ago.

[00:27:02] - [Speaker 2]
You might have. She's right here.

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Everybody moved and staged on '99.

[00:27:06] - [Speaker 2]
Nice. So here's our other female. Podcast.

[00:27:10] - [Speaker 1]
Here's another female. Oh, hi.

[00:27:12] - [Speaker 2]
This is she. I've actually done your podcast. She said years ago.

[00:27:17] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, wow. That. I just told her that. So that's very cool. Love that you're gonna be in the parade.

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So, so fun.

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You've already been in it, Randy. There's Randy. He's one of my. Oh

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my god.

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Competitors. He's trying to hide. But here's some of the the some of the parade all right there.

[00:27:35] - [Speaker 1]
That's nice. It's I love small town parades. I mean, there's nothing better. There's nothing better. Yeah.

[00:27:43] - [Speaker 1]
So So, Tiffany, I'm not gonna take up more a lot more of your time. Just wanted to to tell you thanks so much for being on. Is there anything that you wanna share about yourself or your racing or anything at all?

[00:27:57] - [Speaker 2]
I mean, the biggest thing is, like, I am truly grateful for my husband who tries to hide, but there he is.

[00:28:08] - [Speaker 1]
Alright.

[00:28:09] - [Speaker 2]
Because he's done all of this for me. And Yeah. Yeah. And I I mean, I'm glad that I've done it because without his help and encouragement, I probably would have never gotten in a car. And, obviously, he does all this research, and I drive a Cavalier in my class, and that's probably one of the better

[00:28:31] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

[00:28:31] - [Speaker 2]
Cars that are very competitive and so

[00:28:34] - [Speaker 1]
Easier to work on for me.

[00:28:35] - [Speaker 2]
And he said it's easier

[00:28:36] - [Speaker 1]
to That's work on for funny because when I turned 16, I I lived in the country in Illinois. My dad was a farmer. So, instead of my mom having to drive me in cheerleading practice and all the stuff. When I was 16, I got a car and I got a blue Chevy Cavalier and I drove that car forever and it just wouldn't die. I kept thinking, want a new car.

[00:29:00] - [Speaker 1]
I want a new car, and it would not die.

[00:29:03] - [Speaker 2]
Yeah. We So I They

[00:29:04] - [Speaker 1]
are know how much fun.

[00:29:06] - [Speaker 2]
I mean, I guess, like Hey, Lexi. The biggest heartbreak I've ever had in Hey, Lexi. Racing was leading. I was leading a race. I had a four second lead on second place, and they had the white flag out, and I took the white flag as my motor blew.

[00:29:23] - [Speaker 2]
I coasted all the way around, and I they they finally caught up to me on the back of

[00:29:30] - [Speaker 1]
You have to jump in.

[00:29:31] - [Speaker 2]
Like, right at going into three and four and it died.

[00:29:36] - [Speaker 1]
So, like Oh.

[00:29:38] - [Speaker 2]
Speaking of up and downs and trying to come back from that. So, you know, I think racing the biggest thing I I you know, if anybody could do is to just not give up, and women can do this, and girls can do it. And I highly encourage those little girls that have dreams of doing it is to actually do it because they're not gonna regret it. And we need more

[00:30:02] - [Speaker 1]
in Yeah.

[00:30:02] - [Speaker 2]
In this thing. And and just, you know, even if it's just for fun and they don't wanna, you know, travel and do all this stuff, it's good for your confidence, it's good for skills in life too.

[00:30:16] - [Speaker 1]
It is. It teaches us so many things and you know even like when you're on the racetrack you can be competitive and then when you get off, you can be friends. And I think that's something that's a life lesson as far as we don't have to agree on everything and we can still be friends. And that's one of the things that I think racing also teaches that, you know, other sports and other activities don't necessarily teach that as much. And I I just I'm so proud to be part of this sport and to be able to talk to women like you who, you know, are showing other women that you can do it no matter what your age, no matter anything about how fast your car is, if you're having fun, that's all that matters.

[00:31:08] - [Speaker 2]
Yeah. And I I totally agree with all of that, and I just hope that we get some more I mean, I and I love watching just, like, upcoming kids doing it because it's like, wow. Like, I don't know if I could have done that with at their age. And, also, it's such a mind thing too when you're out there. Mhmm.

[00:31:27] - [Speaker 2]
You're not only having to worry about other people out on the track, but, like, I've always been told, I'm my biggest enemy because I get a big head when I'm out there sometimes, and and I think that's a thing that you have to learn too is trying to get all that because I struggle. I have, you know, like, eating disorder and things like that. And so, like, the confidence is I'm lacking a lot in confidence. And so getting all that stuff out of your head to be able to go out there is huge too. So I think it's just it helps with a lot of stuff.

[00:32:09] - [Speaker 2]
And if you can master that, you're gonna go so far in life and racing.

[00:32:15] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. And if you if racing can teach you some of those things that you can carry over into your other life, your struggles, your whatever, it's it's like, wouldn't you do it? Because it's just so fun.

[00:32:28] - [Speaker 2]
Yeah. Exactly.

[00:32:29] - [Speaker 1]
Well, Tiffany, I hope you guys have a great parade, and I'm so excited that I saw Heather. That's so funny. You said Cottage Grove earlier, I was thinking, oh, but I think that sounds familiar. So that's that's pretty fun that those paths cross. So thanks for being on today.

[00:32:48] - [Speaker 1]
I know you got a busy day, but I appreciate your time. And and how would we follow you on social media?

[00:32:55] - [Speaker 2]
I mean, I have a I have a TikTok. I think it's, like, Tiffany do you remember my TikTok name? Like, Tiffany twenty four. My sister's looking it up. I also have just Facebook, which is my name or my Instagram.

[00:33:11] - [Speaker 1]
Okay.

[00:33:11] - [Speaker 2]
And that's kinda where I post the majority of The things I make you do. My stuff. A lot of my TikTok is more like racing. I feel like

[00:33:20] - [Speaker 1]
I was

[00:33:21] - [Speaker 2]
more my sister's trying to find my thing. But, I mean, I love follow. Yep. I well, friend or I I'm always super you know, people can message me, and I usually get back to them.

[00:33:35] - [Speaker 1]
And Okay.

[00:33:37] - [Speaker 2]
Yeah. So I I try and support, and I'm there for people just

[00:33:40] - [Speaker 1]
in Nowhere I go. So Right. That's awesome. So so, Tiffany, when you're on your social media, if you tag Women's Motorsports Network, it's easier for me to follow you and then I can kind of keep up with you. So if you would do that because I love keeping track of the ladies I've interviewed and if anything comes about that you want to share or something exciting happens, you know, be sure to let me know.

[00:34:10] - [Speaker 1]
I love sharing what my ladies are doing. And so I want you to have a great day, and I just really appreciate you taking time to be on the show. Tell your husband thanks too for driving. Oh, I can't see it.

[00:34:23] - [Speaker 2]
Tiffany it's like Tiffany Hart 24.

[00:34:26] - [Speaker 1]
Okay. Alright. I'll find you. I'll find you.

[00:34:29] - [Speaker 2]
And I'll tag you, and I appreciate your time. Thank you so much.

[00:34:32] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, you're welcome. You have a great weekend.

[00:34:35] - [Speaker 2]
Thanks. You too. Alright. Bye.

[00:34:44] - [Speaker 1]
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[00:35:17] - [Speaker 1]
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